I don't want to go into the BA vs john thing. In all fairness I don't really see anyone talking smack about toplace on BA's site, but maybe they have and I just missed it. Either way. John is a really great guy, and I am happy he is in this business. I been a member of toplace's forums since the site launched and john was the first one to give me some credit for it and give me a thanks for my participation. I hope he makes this company as good as it used to be about a decade ago!