Thanks Snipe/jrob/xeon/ debbie/ ba /john etc. I hope I haven't left anyone out as I can't remember everybody...Where's Bobby phil....Johnny NM...Jake ....it's guys like you that keep the forum going and make everyday/incidentials/ and wearing easier for the newbies and the veterans....I read things sometimes and think oh well...and then I try it and it works...nothing is not important....it gives you insight to probelms that arise...My hat if off to all the contributors.Cheers