(01-10-2012, 08:58 AM)Hersute Wrote: Again Dave,

I have to say you need to get out more!
You'll find gay people leading perfectly ordinary open lives in ANY city in the UK.
But you don't have to even leave your house to realise this.
Social media & the internet would be enough to make ANYONE realise this.

Please understand, as far as I'm concerned, you are entitled to hold any belief you wish.
However, if you are going to express it ANYWHERE outside of your own 4 walls, you should expect to get berated for being outdated & sounding bigoted.
Because as I said before, the rest of the world has moved on from where you live.

Emmm, i live and work in one of the top 3 cities in the UK and i take a walk for an hour or two and in all my 25 years of doing so i have NEVER once witnessed two guys together in open public. ive saw a few girls - whcih for some reason seems to be more acceptable

i also travel in Europe quite a fair bit to cities like Milan, Rome, Prague etcand i dont see it happen

i can only comment on what I see, so please spare me the "need to get out bit" i find that insulting if im honest

Go read about the German soccer player, Mario Gomez, asking for soccer players to come out the closet, despite the warning that any player doing so, could ruin their career by doing so. This may explain my reasoning and here is a snippet:
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A leading German footballer has urged gay players to come out and called for a radical rethink about homosexuality in the sport.

The Bayern Munich striker Mario Gomez has broken ranks with the football establishment, including members of his own team and the German football federation, who have warned that coming out could destroy a player's career.

But Gomez, who has not said whether he is gay, told a German magazine that being honest about their sexuality would improve gay players' performance.

"They would play as if they had been liberated," Gomez said. "Being gay should no longer be a taboo topic."

The 25-year-old, who was voted German footballer of the year in 2006-7, added that there were plenty of role models in the rest of German society to give gay players the courage to come out. "We've got a gay vice-chancellor [Guido Westerwelle]; the Berlin mayor [Klaus Wowereit] is gay. So professional footballers should own up to their preference," he said.

There are no openly gay players in Germany's Bundesliga, reflecting the situation across the football world, although it is estimated that about 10% of players are gay.

The only German footballer to have come out is Marcus Urban, who told his teammates in 1997 and promptly ended his professional career. The 39-year-old waited until 2007 before going public with his story, saying he had hoped to encourage other gay players and trainers to come out and thus contribute to more acceptance and tolerance in football.