I`m not too sure who was wearing full -caps first, and I must have a look through the threads on this in the next day or so. I think JRob may [ but am open to correction] have been the first or one of the first to wear full-caps and his experience of making the template for a fullcap is what I`m interested in really --the style of any system can vary greatly, based both on the specifications and the way a stylist works with it at the cut-in stage. Obviously you may think that one person`s system looks superior to another --- it`s just down to how the individual wants to wear their hair really --- some might think mine looks crap, others think differently -- the pictures are posted so people can get some idea of how a particular style /density etc might look on them, should they choose to wear. In fairness to JRob, he does do detailed posts with full -face pics and I give him credit for that. Regards, Paul.