hey patrick128 thanks for the advice. I have read through your previous posts for some pointers, very helpfull. do you have any pics with your spec? also you say you used to use toppic etc, I have been using this on the vertex the last couple of months but thats not a major concern just yet its the quickly receeding hairline hence the reason im contemplating getting 2 small pieces. If you ised toppic what made you decide to go with the full system? thanks in advance mate